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Here the volume 42 of Kame Camera! We're close to the 4° anniversary (december). The special is on its way too, but in the meanwhile enjoy this very emotional issue too! ^_^

Highlights:
-There is a huge premise in how Kame spends money. Try to guess what.
-What he does when that premises isn't there anymore.
-What he answered when he was asked "what would you choose, love or work?" xD
-Talking about his childhood again and how his parents raised them.
-Talking a bit about Come Here tour too!

Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] scorch66 as always!

KAME CAMERA

What's the scenery of the bottom of the heart that Kamenashi Kazuya's lens reflects?

Vol.42 ミニマム Minimum

「I like the condition of not possessing anything. Because when you're at the minimum, you can be hungry.」

kamecamera42

This is the boat we got on for “KAT-TUN no sekai ichi tame ni naru tabi!” Aomori episode. In this program we can't use money and the instructions are hard... It's always problematic. Every time we come in contact with the warmth of the people who are kind to us, we practically feel how much we are blessed every day.


The precious place where twelve years ago we held our first independent live – this tour, which comes after two years, started from Tokyo International Forum. It has just started but I think that it's a live where the KAT-TUN-ness is prominent. We can produce a stage that can't be obtained in venues for many thousands of people, and each member is expressing himself more and more freely. Exactly because in that venue we are at the minimum condition of 'four people' [T/N: = without special effects], we challenged at our present maximum, and for this reason we have the sensation that we found a new variety of hidden skills.
I like to be at the minimum condition as Kamenashi Kazuya, the individual, too. I don't hate being limited either. For example, even if I were ordered to live in a 6-mat 1 room flat [T/N: a bit less than 10 m2] with 100,000 yen per month, I think I could enjoy that too. For the clothes, I'd carefully choose at least 3 items for both top and bottom from my favorites and I'd enjoy how to rotate and wear them. Even if the room is small, I want to place a bed! That's a sacred ground, so during the day I'd never let anyone sit on it. I'd probably create a small dining room next to the kitchen. It's already fun just to imagine it! (laughs)

I think the reason I can truly enjoy living at its minimum is because when I was a kid, we weren't that wealthy. I've lived in a small house with a big family, and we weren't in the condition of obtaining what we wanted at any time. But you know, back then, the awareness that we were poor was quite thin. We ate only special discount cheap meat, but my mother's cooking was delicious. During family trips we couldn't stop at hotels so we camped out, but it was extremely fun. Building the tent, cooking food, playing in the river, everything was an adventure. Even now, if I could choose at my own free will, I'm probably more for camping than hotels (laughs) My father naturally taught me the skill of enjoying a minimum environment. Since he's a person who in any circumstance uses money for others instead of himself, we brothers never perceived a state of hunger either. Even while holding a big house as an aspiration, I've always felt happiness for the present.


Without work, I couldn't be “Kamenashi Kazuya”


This is why I think I'm not stingy. I don't have attachment to money. Actually, I don't even know how much I possess in total (laughs). Rather, I'm the type that doesn't want to place so much money in the bank account I use most often. Because I can do my best even more if it's always hollow. I'm sure that you can become hungry with the fact of being at the minimum. Of course, I'm happy that I’m able to stop at a beautiful hotel when I travel or to live in a big house. But you know, regarding being able to enjoy using money, the great premise is that I tenaciously make efforts to correspond to that. During the periods I become slack, I can't enter the mood of living in a good house or stopping at a good hotel. In those moments, I look at myself in the mirror and I talk to myself. “What are you doing?! If you don't get a grip on yourself, you don't have any right to stop in such a place!”, I scold my reflection in the mirror like this (laughs) I suppose that, in some way, I'm treating myself like a stranger. I think I'm “Kamenashi Kazuya” only after I give my best at work. For this reason, probably the minimum necessary thing that I need in order to be myself, more than money or romantic love, more than my beloved family, it's “work”. This is different from that idea saying “work is more important than anything”. Speaking of this, in the past, I was asked by an important person of my agency as a hypothetical chat, “which would you choose, work or love?”, my immediate reply was “both” and he got angry at me (laughs) Not limiting to love, I can't compare precious human relationships and work. Everything is connected and supports me. Because in all of this, work is a sort of main pillar keeping the balance. Exactly because there are people important to me, even if it wasn't this kind of job, I want to be myself who always works with all his might.


If I taste “the joy of using money”, the great premise is being someone who gives his best. With just wasting money I don't feel satisfied.


Kame’s fixed point of observation
All Maquia staff attended the tour first day. During the MC Kamenashi-kun said, “The fact that KAT-TUN fans are all very beautiful is my pride”. When we touched that topic, he answered “It's my real thought. Holding a live after such a long time, the first thing I thought was “there are so many girls!”, I was moved by it (laughs) I was also happy that there are many girls dressing up smartly and with nice make-up. I feel like they are looking at us as men more than idols. I wonder if this is also the KAT-TUN-ness!?”
By Maquia

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Kame scolding himself in the mirror is something between the "...he's crazy" and the "...I want to cuddle him" XD But I see his big premise and totally agree with him. Just that I'm not as rich as him so well....
And LOL. Kame's comment about fan seeing them as men instead of idols thus trying to look pretty for them at concerts. I guess he's kinda right. I feel like we have been somewhat exposed XD;

Date: 2014-09-27 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heramarie.livejournal.com
thank you for sharing...:)

Date: 2014-09-27 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ngọc sâm quy lê (from livejournal.com)
Thanks for your translate xDDDD Kame-chan always so cuteeee xDDDD <3 I love him so much >w<

Date: 2014-09-27 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laksmianindita.livejournal.com
thanks for the trans :)

Date: 2014-09-27 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meriam (from livejournal.com)
THANK YOU SO MUCH for translating

Kazuya Kamenashi ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Date: 2014-09-27 03:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-27 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abyssinian13.livejournal.com
i wonder who the "important person" in the agency who asked him about love and work is..

a lot of his thoughts here, particularly his views on money and work, i find very interesting..and of course he's not stingy, just ask his kouhais who ask kame to eat with them..

thanks for sharing!!!

Date: 2014-09-27 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josie-ann.livejournal.com
Thanks for the translation.

Date: 2014-09-27 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveturtle2302.livejournal.com
thank you for always sharing the translated ^^

Date: 2014-09-27 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seelenlicht.livejournal.com
Lmao.

Just.

Oh Kamenashi.

You know generally I found it quite a bit hard to comprehend this...because after every two lines I had to think 'but but...omg dude you spend so much'...and 'omg but but you probably stayed at the 7000$/night suite in hawaii' 'if you could be happy with just 3 shirts...why do you buy so many...?'
So. I mean. I can understand this. And I think this makes him an amazing human being (haaaahaaaaaa brand new information) but it was kinda hard to relate to that XD
But I totally understand how growing up in a quite poor family gave him another attitude when it comes to money and I also think that his past is the reason for the fact that even tho he is a 'star' he still kinda stayed...a normal guy? (well as normal as you can be, being a Kamenashi of course ;-))

Thank you <333333333

Date: 2014-09-27 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iside89.livejournal.com
Well I had a moment of "...." too reading this interview XD; I even commented on Twitter how I facepalmed at the "Idk how much money I have lol" because... Kame wtf?? xD

But I think the answer to your specific doubts (all of us thought the same I bet) is actually in the second half of the interview. It's not a matter of "I'd be happy with only 3 t-shirts, but I buy more and they are even expensive because I can", I think he places it as a challenge to himself: "I'll buy these expensive clothes as memento to be a hardworking person suitable to wear such expensive stuff. The moment I lose this right due to my slackening, then I wouldn't even enjoy the fact I'm rich and can buy them, I would feel bad instead because I don't deserve it". It's a psycho twisted way of thinking and you'd say "lol yeah you can say it because you're actually rich", but I guess that exactly because he wasn't rich his words sound more real than people who's been rich for their whole life. That's why him failing in proving to himself (not society) that he's suitable to the lifestyle he can conduct results in him scolding himself.
It's like he's saying "If the day I won't be rich anymore comes, that'll probably be my fault. But I won't suffer because I've learnt thanks to my parents how to live with few money too".
To this, yeah, as you say, add the fact he probably developed a more generous attitude toward money thanks to his past (I know people like that), but I think the biggest part is that his mind takes all of this as something he has to prove and prove again day after day. I think he said the same thing about the house/car too (aiming to a bigger house/fashionable car and also become a man suitable to that house/car), etc.

Of course this is only my reading of the piece and there may be many more :)

To which I'd add a second reflection: being a person of "a certain level" you're always under the population's and media's eyes; on the contrary, not wearing brand or expensive stuff would make those wonder "why isn't he/she using the money? is smth going on in the background?" and all the fuss as consequence. I was actually said this by a doctor (so totally different world XD) so I believe it's even more real for TV personalities :) They might do it more or less consciously, that depends on the person I guess. As another example, it's also what the boss in First Class explains and orders to do to Sawajiri Erika's character. XD

(btw I think the Hawaii hotel was paid by the agency :))
Edited Date: 2014-09-27 05:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-27 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farsju.livejournal.com
Thank you!~~~

Date: 2014-09-27 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moveslikekame.livejournal.com
Aww his childhood seemed so fun. Despite not being so well off, learning to enjoy little things in life and the time spent with the family is much more precious imo ♥

It's amazing he isn't capable of completely enjoying himself when he felt he was not his 100%. It's much more fulfilling when you know you did your best and that you deserve every pleasure you're getting. And aww the talking to his reflection on the mirror ♥ Weirdly cute Kamenashi! Weirdly cute! And I totally agree with you on the "...he's crazy-I want to cuddle him" XD

"If I taste “the joy of using money”, the great premise is being someone who gives his best. With just wasting money I don't feel satisfied."

"For this reason, probably the minimum necessary thing that I need in order to be myself, more than money or romantic love, more than my beloved family, it's “work”" - My mind went completely "this man is totally married to his work" at this line but then I read the next lines and *sigh of relief* there's hope

“The fact that KAT-TUN fans are all very beautiful is my pride” - Fuu~ XD


Thank you so much for translating Isi~ Otsukame~ ♥

Date: 2014-09-27 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iside89.livejournal.com
It does! And his parents sound like they did parenting just right.
Indeed my fav part of this issue is the part regarding the family and the work attitude instead of the money one XD (but I know most people will be attracted to that topic instead xD)

My mind went completely "this man is totally married to his work" at this line
I did too XD; luckily he corrected xD; (as small spoiler from the Special, the staff joked about how Kame talks about KAT-TUN like a husband about his wife so uhm well, maybe he is married to his work after all *cries* XD)

Thank you~

Date: 2014-09-27 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moveslikekame.livejournal.com
Lol and fudge the being responsible part you mentioned before too! Maybe he is married to his work XD

Date: 2014-09-27 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iside89.livejournal.com
Yes yes that part!! XD
(and I *love* your icon unf!!)

Date: 2014-09-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bellak1982.livejournal.com
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He is sooooooo cute
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Thank you for translating

Date: 2014-09-27 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamemama kamenashi (from livejournal.com)
Thank you so much.

Date: 2014-09-27 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuijbj.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for the trans. Love him. <3
I'm relieved that he seems to be able to deal with the ups and downs of his career. I mean he can stay at minimum when money doesn't come easy like before. :D
Edited Date: 2014-09-27 06:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-27 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spirit-diamond.livejournal.com
thank you! :D

Date: 2014-09-27 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akame-koi13.livejournal.com
I think it's great that he has such an attitude to money, but honestly I suppose it seems strange considering how rich he actually is. Nevertheless, it seems like a great attitude to have and a wonderful way to appreciate what he has. Perhaps his childhood contributes to that, but all I can say is that it's great that he's such a… well, decent person, really, and that he has those feelings of thankfulness rather than greed or even lack of care.
Thanks for the translation, as always!

Date: 2014-09-27 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-eye1.livejournal.com
Thank You ^_^

Date: 2014-09-27 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] affor.livejournal.com
I will never get tired of reading what exactly his 'work' means to him. It is fascinating how interwoven it is with his personality, as if it's part of expressing himself.

The part about money was (somewhat) reassuring - I sometimes worry that he squanders all his money and ends up in debt D= He just seems like that kind of person to me xD But it seems he thinks about it quite a lot, so I'm not so worried now ^_^

Thank you so much for translating! ^_^

Date: 2014-09-27 11:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladyc2
Thank you for the translation

Date: 2014-09-27 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jehanakame.livejournal.com
I don't know if this happens to any others but I always takes a long preparation before I actually read Kame Camera. Because I don't know what I'll face. The bits from Kame's true self slipping from some of his words.. Sometimes it really overwhelms me.. He's so deep sometimes I feel really ashamed of myself but he's a really good source of motivation as well.

His parents did really good in parenting, I guess. For Kame to be able to become THE "Kamenashi Kazuya" but still remember the ground beneath his feet is a really good indication. He's really mature. But not in the way that makes him lose his shine and all. If anything, he seems to shine more the more he grows :)

Onto the money subject.. I won't lie but I have this "um, Kame.. are you sure?" kind of moments xDD (not totally my fault! I just need to relate him with expensive xDD and Koki even said he's thrifty some years ago (although he also said Kame got quite a sum as well. lol)) but he totally deserves it. A reward for himself. "I buy this because I can. I can buy this because I've worked hard." in a way, I think it's a good way of relaxation as well. So he won't have to think at a cold night when he's exhausted and feeling lonely "who I do all of these for?"
I don't know if I make sense or not xDD (I haven't slept at all and it's 6.28 AM, so, yeah.. I think it's forgivable if I don't make any sense xDD)

"in the past, I was asked by an important person of my agency as a hypothetical chat, “which would you choose, work or love?”, my immediate reply was “both” and he got angry at me"

now I really wonder who this person is. "important" "Got angry" and he's not telling the name.. I'm really curious >///< Please elaborate Kame!! >///<


Thank you for translating and sharing!^^ I really appreciate your hard work :DD Thank you so much!!
Edited Date: 2014-09-27 11:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-28 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iside89.livejournal.com
now I really wonder who this person is. "important" "Got angry" and he's not telling the name.. I'm really curious
For sake of correctness, I point out that it could be a "he" or a "she" (Kame doesn't express the sex), I used a "he" just because I needed a grammar subject ^^"
I guess it must be someone like chief manager or someone at very top (I wouldn't go as far as Johnny tbh, I don't see Johnny getting angry for something like that, and not toward Kame. But surely someone just below him in the ranking, kind of a "Big Person").

You're welcome and thanks for the compliments! ♥

Date: 2014-09-28 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scorch66.livejournal.com
The best part about maquia isn't even learning new things about Kame but confirming things you've always thought about him and having him reflect those thoughts back, completely aligned, in his own words. It's such a thrilling and... happy feeling to know that we've been seeing the right man when we see and hear Kamenashi Kazuya. <3


ps. can we just take a moment to focus on the fact that KAME SCOLDS HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR. and then laughs about it later fhdsjk torn between being very amused and ;o; over how precious he is and :'( at how hard he is on himself. It reminds me of his old oshareism interview where he said he'd give himself pep talks, "you're kamenashi, you're kamenashi" only they sounded too unforgiving to be pep talks... sob. It's amazing how he doesn't burn out. ♥

Re: ♥

Date: 2014-09-28 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iside89.livejournal.com
\0/ Totally agree with you. As always ♥

About pep talks, we can also discuss about his own comment in Katsumode, when he got the hakama wrong and then said to the audience "ssh! Kamenashi isn't allowed to do such mistakes!!". He's really harsh to himself. On one side I admire him and wish I were as strict as him, on the other I wish he was a bit more forgiving because after all he's human too.

Date: 2014-09-28 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adamsheroin.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for this lovely translation! Once again, Kamenashi does not fail to surprise me with his thinking. <3

Date: 2014-09-28 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4koori.livejournal.com
Thank u! ♥

Date: 2014-09-29 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] powwie.livejournal.com
Thanks for translating this article.
Money is always a delicate issue, it's easy to (unintentionally) upset people. It's interesting that he chose to directly approach that issue when talking about "minimum".
His lifestyle and self-discipline never cease to amaze me.
His work/money logic is sound and easy to agree to once you pass the shock that it seems he doesn't care much about how much he owns. (That's a luxory too, btw).
I think we all have experienced the satisfaction to spend freely some money that we've earned instead of having (for examples) our parents buying it for us. [though in our case is probably a mix of hard work and savings strategies that allow us extravagant expenses ^^']



I was also happy that there are many girls dressing up smartly and with nice make-up.

now, seriously Kame, tell me how can you call wearing a one-size-only, SQUARE, white T-Shirt being "dressed up smartly"? XD
Oh, right, he said that after the first concert in Tokyo, when he also pointed out that not many people were wearing the come Here t-shirt! XD

Date: 2014-09-29 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dori-liv.livejournal.com
Thanks for translating. Kame's upbringing sounds really nice. And his relationship with his work is forever inspiring.

Date: 2014-09-29 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanneloveskt.livejournal.com
Thanks for the work and sharing.
He is in many ways a *Diva* but he never forget where is coming from.
So native (?not sure if it´s the right word) in a glitter world.

Date: 2014-10-02 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crism79.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for the translation and sharing it :D

Date: 2014-10-02 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibylblack.livejournal.com
Quoterei praticamente tutto per commentare, ma devo controllarmi!

For example, even if I were ordered to live in a 6-mat 1 room flat [T/N: a bit less than 10 m2] with 100,000 yen per month, I think I could enjoy that too.

...non so se gli credo XD da una parte sì, credo che Kame abbia un grande spirito d'adattamento, dall'altra mi lascia un po' perplessa immaginarlo!

Since he's a person who in any circumstance uses money for others instead of himself, we brothers never perceived a state of hunger either.

Ecco da chi ha preso Kame ♥ Credo che abbia davvero una bella famiglia ♥

During the periods I become slack
Cioè mai

If I taste “the joy of using money”, the great premise is being someone who gives his best. With just wasting money I don't feel satisfied.

♥ A volte credo che abbia la maturità di uno col doppio della sua età, non so se sia per l'educazione che gli hanno impartito i suoi, per carattere o per un insieme di cose (probabilmente) ♥

Credo che nonostante dica di non sapere quanti soldi ha lo sappia benissimo e li gestisca mooooolto bene XD dato che Kame sembra molto assennato e pensa al futuro non penso che si basi solamente sullo stipendio mensile o giù di lì... mi viene in mente Junno (credo fosse lui) durante un'intervista anni fa, disse che Kame aveva comprato del vino di un'annata particolare, già costosa, e aveva intenzione di tenerlo a lungo per farne aumentare il valore, come investimento ♥ Non so perchè mi ha colpito questo dettaglio e mi è piaciuto, non credo ci siano molti giovani che ragionano così :)

Grazie della traduzione, come sempre ♥
Edited Date: 2014-10-02 09:28 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-02 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] witchann2.livejournal.com
Thank you for translation and sharing! ^^
It was a pleasure to read as always.

Date: 2014-10-04 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dee-pa.livejournal.com
thankyuu for transl ^^

Date: 2014-10-20 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blahblah.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing your translations!!

Date: 2014-10-30 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissmegreen.livejournal.com
“which would you choose, work or love?”, my immediate reply was “both”... Everything is connected and supports me...

So, sooo true words XD

... and I can't imagine Kame slacking off lol but I do want to see him scolding himself!!!

Thanks again! Can't believe how far behind I was with Maquia ><'

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